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Title: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: roxy on February 17, 2018, 05:45:29 PM
I am sorry but I fail to understand the credit system that keeps people from downloading tables.
I enjoy and support Rogue Pinball but I do not have any technical abilities and very little wisdom to offer the talented people of Rogue Pinball. I contribute whenever I have something worthwhile.

I wish I were young enough and smart enough to do all the amazing things that the people in the pinball community do, but that's not going to happen.  I have enjoyed real pinball for many years (especially EM games for which RP is noted) and virtual pinball has allowed that enjoyment to continue.  I hope some modification can be made so tables can be downloaded once again without credits.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on February 19, 2018, 01:59:17 AM
I appreciate your opinion Roxy. I know not everyone can make a table, fewer still are any good at it. But since I opened, there has always been very little participation of any kind. I don't charge for anything here, and while I have had a few donations here and there, it's not enough to pay site costs, I do that myself. But this is not about that. I've put a lot of hours in here to make it what it is. When everyone joins and doesn't participate, I ask myself "why am I doing this if no one cares"?

Post a topic, reply to a topic, post a comment on a download, these are things anyone can do. I don't expect everyone to gab all the time, but there's a difference between that and nothing. An occasional comment or reply is all you need, is that so much to ask? I thought about this a couple years ago, but never did it. I finally decided to do it as I was asking myself what was the point of staying open if no one cares?

BTW, just posting this topic gave you 10 downloads. :Content:
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: roxy on February 19, 2018, 07:27:07 PM
Thank you Itchigo for your response and I appreciate your consideration.  I had the mistaken idea there was 1 credit earned per comment, etc.  10 seems quite fair.  For my error, I earned 10 credits - pretty good.  With all the mistakes I make, I should “earn” lots of credits in no time.  😃

I have tried to rate, usually 5 stars, when I download a table and I am amazed how often no one else has done so.  As for comments, I'll try to do a better job.

However, appreciation can not be quantified by solely measuring participation.
Thank you for all your effort.  Roxy
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on February 19, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Not as problem. :Smile:

I'm not sure about the rating system, and how effective it is. I don't think rating a table gives you anything, but I have never used ratings when downloading anything myself. Rating 5 stars is a pat on the back to an author, but I have never used it to decide if I should download a table or not, I've always gone by the screenshot.

Not everyone can make a table, but for uploading anything, including a wheel, gets you 25 credits. If someone downloads the item you uploaded, you get the credit they paid for it, every time it's downloaded. I wanted to make it where you didn't have to be posthappy, but had to show some sign of life. I think I found a good balance. :Whistle:

When we opened it seemed people went out of their way not to post. They'd PM me about a table that had issues, but the tables weren't mine. The tables in "Itchy's Cab" mostly came from other sites, that would not allow someone to repost them. But I either downloaded or made a backglass for them and shared them as a pair, ready to go. But I never claimed ownership of anything (except for the one's I really made). So I set it up so you could go to a page and pick out what you like, just by table name. My cab has been up there a couple years, and no one's ever complained.

At 794 tables I think I have the largest vp9 collection of working 2 screen tables, with no duplicates. I have another 25 to add, but haven't had time... I even have all the dreaded Sam's in there. The ones that will stop the earth from spinning, you know.  :Excellent:

And you're right, participation does not equal appreciation. But I thought it was time to "nudge the universe in the right direction" a bit. :Wink:
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: roxy on February 20, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
I know well of all of your Itchy’s cab, BG, PF, and WA files, and they have been a great help for me to install many tables on my cabinet.  Since I have zero computer skills, it was a real blessing for me to have everything in one place.  I felt like I struck gold when I discovered your table list.  What a great and helpful idea. 
Onward and upward.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Slydog43 on March 29, 2018, 11:26:29 AM
Do I get credits for posting this thread?   I can upload my DMD image wheels that I created I guess if that would help.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on March 29, 2018, 08:52:37 PM
Do I get credits for posting this thread?   I can upload my DMD image wheels that I created I guess if that would help.

You do! You get credits by starting OR replying to a thread, as well as uploading.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: halen on August 30, 2018, 06:17:46 PM
Thanks Itchigo for this great Website
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: halen on August 31, 2018, 06:04:02 AM
I'm just a pinball player. I can make some changes at the tables but just simple things. I contribute to several pinball sites and suggest that the contribution to be given could make it easier to download the tables. I do not have much to help and so it is difficult to contribute to the development of virtual pinba
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on September 04, 2018, 08:55:30 PM
Halen, you're contributing right now! Not many people can make a table or work on them. Fewer still are any good- that's fine. Just by participating you are contributing. :Cool:
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: greynurse on November 06, 2018, 06:10:15 AM
I'm all good with the credit system. I think I just like the colour of my own text.  :Green:
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: w312 on November 06, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
contributing... is easy just say hi
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: wwwombat on November 16, 2018, 07:59:22 AM
Finally getting back in the swing of creating my pinball cabinet (as nagged to by my son). On the arcade machine I always had a (desktop version) favourite of Soccer (1964) and bugger me if I didn't now find it (fullscreen version) and a backglass on this site. Tried to use my 1 credit that I must have been granted just by registering and the internet in my place went down so I lost that. When it came back, I went to read about this credit system and stumbled across this thread. Hopefully this post allows me to go grab it ;o) Many thanks guys!
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on November 16, 2018, 08:05:16 PM
Hello and welcome! Yep, that post should get you 10 downloads. And to my knowledge, we are the only site that has that Soccer game.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: bsanders on December 02, 2018, 09:40:13 PM
Looking to download Diamond Lill.  Was request from my father.   Very cool to see it recreated.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Humid on December 18, 2018, 10:49:00 PM
I think the credit rewards system is quite fair Itchy. Your site does provide a unique selection of downloads for the EM lover. I'm glad you've remained active for those that appreciate the gameplay and rules of old school design. Thanks for adding the b2s element to so many great classics,
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: scrappy555 on February 23, 2019, 05:52:21 AM
Love the old tables you provide on this site. thank you!!!
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: l0g0n on May 13, 2019, 02:08:45 PM
I am fairly new to the Visual Pinball community.  Do sites often have exclusive tables or are sites able to be shared between sites?
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on May 16, 2019, 05:37:22 AM
Hi and welcome! Sometimes yes, say the author is a member of one site and not another. We have many vpinball.com or vpf doesn't have. No one site should have it all, or there wouldn't be a reason to visit the other sites. Vpf had a monopoly when it started, thankfully, there are more choices now. :Hi:
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: pinella on June 15, 2019, 10:02:15 AM
Sounds like an interesting system, I'll say hi and have an explore :)
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: allheart on June 30, 2019, 02:59:58 PM
At first I didn't understand the credit system, but this thread helped explain it.   Thanks.

I'm in the process of rebuilding my Mini-Pin cabinet after losing the HDD.  I had forgotten so many tables.  IT really looks interesting to see all of these older tables.

Thanks for having the site with such a variety of tables.

Alan
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: meek424424 on July 06, 2019, 09:37:14 AM
Thanks for clearing up the credit system. It is unique but I like it. :)
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: jhardin80 on July 27, 2019, 03:35:43 PM
The credit system seems like an interesting concept. There are some unique downloads to check out here so it looks to be worth taking the time to explore and comment.
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: HSM on September 19, 2019, 06:41:24 PM
I came here to check out the flipperless games, I find the old stuff interesting! :Hi (2):
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Bob Albright on November 04, 2019, 02:52:40 PM
  Makes some sense to me. Had not come here for a while and was confused when I tried to download. I understand your frustration. Thanks for the site
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on November 04, 2019, 05:14:59 PM
Thanks Bob!
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: jh798268 on April 08, 2020, 09:57:17 PM
Hello everyone, just got sucked into the V Pinball scene and I don't mind posting to get credits to download. Seems like it would be a good way for us to meet and share in the hobby? Look forward to more interactions with you guys and gals!
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: Itchigo on April 08, 2020, 11:16:32 PM
Hi and Welcome! :Welcome:
Title: Re: Credit Requirement for Downloading Tables
Post by: tallguy on April 26, 2020, 04:12:18 PM
Just testing the credit system thing...