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What do you think about the roms controversy?

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roxy:
I got a birthday greeting from Rogue Pinball yesterday.  Thank you.  You made me realize that I have been away from VP far too long.  I return and to my chagrin, Gottlieb ROM’s are history.  What is happening ?

When I started playing virtual pinball, it was a great discovery for me and I was truly amazed.  However, I was even more amazed how helpful and cooperative all the worldwide people were on the VP websites.  The VP community is considerate and understanding beyond belief, and I am a total skeptic.

The ROM’s may be gone but as long as Rogue Pinball and others endure, we will be okay.

bha19:
My question is has VP helped or hurt real pinball? It seems to me that there are more retro arcades popping up everywhere but there are places where you still don't have access to real pinball. I really do enjoy VP and the other  pinball emulators, but this is not the same as real pinball. I do know that at the other site a while back Gary Stern chimed in on the subject and said he did not mind the older Stern games being emulated but the newer games he wanted to give people a chance to play the real ones (I believe there was a 5 year limit set up for making the roms work in pinmame official versions). Also what is the expiration date on copyrights of the roms? Is it 70 years like other copyrights?

Itchigo:
No doubt VP has helped, and even precipitated this upon us. If people weren't spending money on cabs, if sites like this one weren't popular; no one would think they could profit from it. Now that they know there is interest in playing these old games, they will try to come up with something to make money. At that point we will be in the way because why pay when you can do it in VP for free? We are at that point now.

Paul at VPF has made a business with cabs for several years now. There's more than 1 place to buy a cab now, that's not "some guy in his garage". That shows there is money in this hobby. Investors have gotten wind of this and are taking advantage of the opportunity.

Paul said there was a 3 year moratorium on making games using the current system (Stern). We had to wait 3 years after the latest OS was obsolete to make the game. I didn't believe it at first, but I found the thread at Pinball Nirvana and it is true. However the thread is SEVERAL years old.

I have no clue on the copyright expirations though.



--- Quote from: kencaine on January 18, 2019, 07:58:06 AM ---I'm actually surprised that there are not more 'professional quality' VPX created original games.

--- End quote ---

How's this for professional grade? My table was at Comican (2016), and even played by the guys from the show. (vp9)

bha19:
So when Ultrapin came out they had to buy the rights to put the pinball's on their machines? I played a virtual pinball table at an arcade where they charged $1.00 for 3 balls and had about 11 tables on the machine but I don't think any were Gottlieb. Also if I buy a cabinet I am not buying the rom just the cabinet. I know for example that video game emulators are legal to own just not the roms so is this not the same since the sellar did not tell you to put illegal stuff on it, but who would buy a video cabinet and not use it?

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